No matter what position, no matter how many years someone’s been in their position, every team member likes to know that they’re doing a good job. Tiff and Kristy talk about why defining duties and responsibilities—and then measuring metrics against those duties and responsibilities—is so critical to “winning” at your job.
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The Dental A Team (00:00)
Hello Dental A Team listeners. I am so excited to be here with you today I know I see that every single time but I hope you guys know how much I truly love podcasting it is a time away from like we'll call it work I feel like podcasting just isn't work for us and we love Speaking to you guys. love getting all this information out there for you and we love our time together So you guys afford us that and today I have an all-time fave I actually I know this is gonna make you blush but
I get some pretty incredible feedback. Kristy, I have Kristy here with us today. I get some pretty incredible feedback from a lot of our clients and a lot of listeners on the podcasts that we do together. So Kristy, I am here today in your presence and it just makes me feel so good. And I'm here to pick that brilliant brain. So thank you for showing up, bringing it and giving me, we've got an ample amount of time this afternoon together. So thank you, Kristy.
The Dental A Team (00:54)
Yeah.
I always have fun when I'm here with you. You know that. It's just so natural that we can rip off each other. And ? I don't know, you do a good job at picking my brain and pulling it out. So it's always fun. look forward to our time together.
The Dental A Team (01:09)
Thank you.
Thank you. Thank you, Kristy. You guys should know something about Kristy. She is an incredible consultant and I know that this is our time that I get to kind of share and spread some light and joy on our consulting team. And Kristy, I think it's imperative for the world to know that, gosh, you have just an amazing list of clients who are really seeing some impressive results recently. We're into the new year. We're like,
Now when this releases two months into the new year, which is freaking wild, but that's fine. But so many of your clients saw so many successes last year and in those successes we're seeing systems development and within those systems development, really seeing goals being pushed, being reached, being surpassed. You've got some clients that I know you were looking at the goals that they were setting for themselves and you were like, yes, and that's one of my favorite Kristy-isms. Yes, and, yes, and.
I think you can do more. So you like are pushing them outside of their comfort zones and really projecting for them things that I don't think that a lot of your clients even see possible. I just think it's really cool. And today we're talking really about how accountability is gonna help reduce stress within the practice. And I say all of these things that you're doing really well for your clients right now, Kristy, because it takes so much accountability to be able to perform those pieces without
an overload of stress. You can grow and not have accountability. You can spin your wheels and cycle in the negative or however you want to say it. But when that accountability piece is also attached to the things that you're implementing, I think that's really where you see the true results. And that's where we've gotten some incredible feedback that Kristy is amazing. And ? you've taught them so many skills that they can then take them themselves.
and carry it on. And I think it's really cool. It's just really valuable what you've been able to implement for practices. So my question, my first question to you, my first brain pick is why do you find it so important to uphold the accountability levels that you hold for your clients and that you train them to hold for their teams by proxy? Why is that so important to you and so valuable in the coaching that you do?
The Dental A Team (03:31)
Yeah, I love that question because even us in what we do, we want to know if we're winning or not. Right. And so every team member, doesn't matter what job you're doing. You want to know if you're doing a good job and if you're winning. And if we don't have KPIs to measure or clarity in our roles, we're just, we're going day by day by default, you know, and we could have a success, but like you said, it's
How do we repeat it if we don't even know what we're looking for? So number one is defining those duties and understanding what am I responsible for and how do I know if I'm winning or
The Dental A Team (04:15)
Yeah, I love that. you said a couple of things there that I keyed in on, but you said duplicate. So making it repeatable and making it so that that system can be driven by anyone. like anyone can do it, it can be duplicated and you can take a same or similar system and copy and paste it into a different department or a different goal. And I totally agree. Now, when you have something that's duplicatable, it's just kind of
I don't want to say on autopilot, but it feels more on autopilot because you're not having to put quite so much like thought process on everything, you know? It is kind of on autopilot. When you're able to do that, how does that, what level of accountability does that require? I guess is the question. Like we've got to, we can have all the systems in the world and the clarity and the job roles, we think we have the clarity and we hand it to them and then we walk away.
what's the next step? We've got the clarity, we've got the job descriptions. What does the accountability look like for those things and why is it so important to the overall stress of the team?
The Dental A Team (05:23)
Yeah, again, in everything we do, it's either by default or by intention, right? And I'd rather be intentional. So using those duties and then following up. I'm a firm believer of performance reviews outside of wage reviews. Can they tie together? 100 % they can tie together. But I also feel as leaders in the practice, we have a responsibility to grow our people, not just grow our practice, but grow our people, right?
And so having those conversations to measure against their duties and the KPIs, not a feeling, I feel like I did a good job, right? ? Having those to measure against, lets them know, they know before they even come in that they're winning or not. And it also gives us the opportunity to coach them up, right? If they're not winning or, you know, what's getting in the way of it, or really it could be an opportunity to coach them and train them.
And it doesn't necessarily mean us as leaders have to be the one to do it, but we can provide resources and we can get commitments around it so that we can measure, again, we don't have to hit perfection, but are we trending in a growth pattern? And the more that we grow our people, the more that our practice grows, you know?
The Dental A Team (06:43)
Yeah,
yeah, that makes sense. So you're tying that accountability measurement, that accountability piece is less micromanaging and oversight and like, are you doing the thing but it's tied into the results being driven. So if we're tracking the KPIs, we're tracking the results that we're desiring and we're seeing, are we on track, off track? Are we growing? Are we declining? That's the accountability measurement and then inspiring our team to want to win within that.
that provides that feedback system, I guess, that loop back where they're like, hey, I'm seeing a downtrend. Maybe they're at a point now where they're inclined to speak up and ask for help or they see something that needs to be adjusted or switched and so they're doing it on their own rather than that micromanaged ? over the shoulder accountability. Because I do think, Kristy, that a lot of times the definition of the word accountability can be
It's like ASAP, like when can you come ASAP? That could mean anything. Your ASAP versus my ASAP is who knows what that means. So that accountability piece, I think we all have our own definition or our own variation of defining it, but your version here is really looking at the results driving it and then constantly coming back to it. So I love that. are you having your doctors and your practices?
look at those results and talk about them because there's the one piece to assume that we're all adults and we're all going to look at them, we're all going to fill them in, we're all going to come to our leadership when we need help. But then that's where I get the phone calls from the doctors that's like, I thought I employed adults and they're not doing the thing. And they're well, we get busy too. So it doesn't always happen that way. So when are you suggesting or having your doctors and your practices really look at those results to bring that fold of accountability measurement into it?
At the one-on-ones for sure, is there anything else that you're adding in there?
The Dental A Team (08:42)
Yeah, for sure. think that truly there's daily, weekly, monthly, quarterly, and yearly metrics, and they can be broken out. ? Yes, one-on-ones are specific to them, but it's also a team sport, right? And so, again, I think I encourage everybody to be doing meetings.
If in a perfect world, I'd love them weekly and they're strategic to work on the business, not just in the business and in the ones that are doing it with intention and having those meetings and dialing in on those metrics. And, you know, they can tell if they're winning or not. It gives you the strategy to be able to course correct sooner than later. And it lets everybody know where they are and we can be support to each other. So to your question,
I don't think it's cut and dry, but I do think there's daily, weekly, monthly numbers that we should be having a pulse on. I don't want to wait till November to know I'm $100,000 behind for the year. It gets a little harder to chunk down. So ? the other thing that you said, Tiff, too, is when you were saying accountability, I think that word in and of itself tends to have a negative connotation.
The Dental A Team (09:48)
Yeah. Yeah.
The Dental A Team (10:01)
I want to challenge our members and people listening to see it as a positive thing. Like literally it's your time to invest in your people. I literally just got off the phone with one that, and it's funny because our admin team, it's usually where it falls. It's like, hey, I need you to credential this doctor. Okay, I don't even know how to do that. whose doctors don't even know how to do it. So how is that team member going to know how to do it? Right?
Where do I start? And in fact, the doctor doesn't know how to do it. So sometimes it's, we can't just leave them out on an island and expect them to win. And if we check in early, we can provide resources. Again, I don't, a doctor, maybe they don't need to know how to do it, but can they guide them?
and give them the resource. And in doing that, look how much more valuable they've just made that team member.
The Dental A Team (10:55)
I think you're spot on there. just that statement there of the team member, like I can picture is we want to talk about how accountability reduces the stress. And that's that scenario you just gave. I can picture the office manager being like, yeah, okay, I'll figure it out. And then all that does is add this underlying unknown stress in the back of her mind or his mind. They're thinking, I got to figure this out. I got to make this work. I got to
I gotta do it, but I've got all these other things first. And then dot comes in and is like, hey, did you do that? And they're like, no, like, right? And now we're stressed and we're freaking out. And it's like, there's that unknown space that we don't always know what we don't know. So we don't always know the questions to ask, but just really having that feedback system of accountability within the results, I think is the key there.
The Dental A Team (11:45)
you one of the things we fail at as leaders is painting that clarity. Again, even if I asked you to do that, did you give me a timeframe? Because you might've wanted it done yesterday. I'm thinking, I could do it in the next month, you know?
The Dental A Team (12:00)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, which is what I do, right? I'm like, yep, got it, it's on my list. But I've got 60 other things that are also on my list that if I'm not given a prioritization, I'm gonna prioritize it myself, right? And that's, it's gonna fall where it falls. And then you come back and you say, where's that thing? I'm like, well, it's on the back end of my list, because what does it trump? So what does it go above that I can replace?
it with, know, whatever. So you're spot on there. I love that, that it all loops together because in the beginning you said, then you just said to you like painting that clarity. And I always tell practices, and I know you do too, when you're building out the job descriptions and the org charts, you need one to three key metrics of results. What are the one to three things that this position is after? We want, you know, a schedule full to daily production goal. That's our schedulers goal.
So all of those little pieces that get us there, we don't tackle those until we're not reaching goal. So if we're not reaching that big overarching metric, that's when we say, okay, what system is broken? But I think, Kristy, what tends to happen is that people are like, no, accountability causes stress. Like Tiff, Kristy, you're crazy. The accountability causes stress because we're micromanaging the systems.
that get us to the result rather than holding the accountability lever to the result.
The Dental A Team (13:31)
I agree with you 100 % and truly looking at the person as a human and how can I develop this within them, right? I don't think anybody walks in on any given day thinking how can I make this day horrible, right? They want to please their leaders and it's just sometimes they don't understand how. They don't really have the clarity on how and more so they don't know what
The Dental A Team (13:39)
Yeah.
bright.
The Dental A Team (14:00)
what winning looks like.
The Dental A Team (14:02)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. No, I think you're spot on there and you're making me think that clarity piece,
clarity piece and knowing how to make someone happy, right? How do I thrive in this position and make my doctor or my manager, whomever my lead, happy also ties back to when accountability is only held in the negative. It's very easy to start to feel like
you're not, you can't win. There's no positive being brought to light. So it's it's celebrating when cause for celebrating and it's tackling system when cause for tackling systems and never tackling the person. Unless it's a personality, personnel issue that's separate, but when it comes to accountability results and driving the practice, it's more about celebrating and tackling as you need to and not only tackling, which in the dental industry,
The Dental A Team (14:43)
You got
The Dental A Team (14:58)
Our jobs, I tell practices all the time, patients come here so we can tell them what's wrong with their teeth. They don't come here so we can say, my gosh, that's the best smile I've seen all day. Like we want to say that, right? But when we see that good smell, we're like, you're all good, nothing here, right? That's not a celebration. We're just like, no problems. See you later. And we tend to do that in our KPI meetings too, where it's like, cool, you're good, you're good, you're good. you're not good, let's focus on you today. And it's like, well, shoot, when do I win?
I think you keyed on something really big there. I think deducting all of those pieces that you mentioned today, Kristy, it feels like the stress is typically going to be seen in more of an emotional capacity than in a physical can-do capacity. So it's in a mental capacity that turns into an emotional capacity that brings on the stress of the world and really just keying in on how to remove the emotion.
from it, bring in the black and white and celebrate those pieces.
The Dental A Team (16:02)
I agree with you 100%. And I think it's why we always are speaking to right people, right seat, right? And I always joke when I tell my clients this, I almost think it should be right seat, right people instead of, you know what I mean? Yeah. yeah, spot on.
The Dental A Team (16:14)
Yeah. Yeah, no, that's fair.
I love it. If you were to pick two or three things that a practice could do today that might be not like, I don't wanna say surface level, because I don't think it's surface level, but maybe not digging deep and uprooting a whole system. But what are some things that they could implement today or they could take a look at flushing out if they were to try to reduce stress today in their practice?
The Dental A Team (16:44)
Yeah, I truly, I think the first thing would be, there one or two metrics that aren't where you want them? Let's pull out that system or identify what duties or what things do we do every day that contribute to that number and then pull out those systems and figure out it. It can be process or it can be people, meaning
Maybe as a person, I change the recipe, right? I always tell people, you change the chocolate chip recipe for a cup of salt, when it called for cup of sugar, you don't get to say the recipe doesn't work, right? So pull it back out. Let's look at it. Is the recipe, we tailored it and it's not working? Let's just get back to it. know, recommit, recommit as a team or an individual and then remeasure. Is it working? Right? So,
The Dental A Team (17:22)
That's fair.
Yeah. Yeah.
The Dental A Team (17:38)
That would be my thing and get energized behind it.
The Dental A Team (17:42)
I love it. Well, thank you. It amazed me. actually just last night I altered I altered a recipe. I make these biscuit things for Brody and I was like, I'll do a gluten free flour because then I can have some too. And I really like bell peppers. So I'm gonna take the bell peppers out. But I didn't change the amount of flour. So they are real dry, you know, and Brody this morning was like, maybe you need a new recipe. And I was like, well, no, it was.
because I didn't have enough wet ingredients because I didn't put the bell peppers in there and to it I didn't reduce the flour so it's just funny that you said that because Brody was ready to throw out the recipe and find a whole new recipe but it wasn't the recipe it was me so I appreciate that you say that at home today. ?
The Dental A Team (18:22)
You
I think
the with that though, you know, the ironic-ness that you just said that my son has celiac. So in the very beginning, we were learning to cook different. It's funny how you have to transition. I would encourage you to use applesauce in your... It puts it back to nobody's trying to make the day difficult. We're all trying to do our best and, you know, celebrate your people. Try to recognize the wins.
The Dental A Team (18:28)
Yeah.
Yeah.
? smart! Yes, I do forget about that.
The Dental A Team (18:55)
and the areas that aren't improving, address them as needed.
The Dental A Team (19:00)
Yeah,
I love that. Thank you. Thank you. And thank you for the tip. Everybody has a gluten-free flour tip now as well. We're here for all of the things. Awesome, Kristy, thank you. And I hope you guys can see some spaces in your practice where you can dial in the accountability. I don't wanna say ramp up the accountability. I think it just needs to be dialed in and it just needs to be in alignment with what your goals are.
The Dental A Team (19:05)
Right
The Dental A Team (19:27)
And if your goals are to have a stress-free practice, it doesn't mean you remove the accountability. It just means that you find the alignment of the accountability to sit with your goals. take a look. You guys, think you know, Hello@TheDentalATeam.com is where to send questions. We are here for it. And a lot of those questions, just so you know, if they are tailored to specific things like this, they get sent to the consultant team and we are the ones that are providing the answers for them to respond to you guys. So you have us at your fingertips, just like our clients do if you are a client.
Reach out to your consultant, she's there to help you. We love what we do. you guys, drop a five star review below. We love hearing what you love. And you know what, when you use that applesauce, let us know how that goes too. So, Kristy, thank you so much for your time today. And with that, you guys, it's a wrap. We'll catch you next time.