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for something without iron (ask me how I...Use Hemodent clear instead. Your troubles will go...No Ferric Sulfate. Clear Hemodent if need to. Happened to me before and learned from it. My thought would be to make sure the gum is healthy before cementation. The gingival margin is way too inflamed for you
October 10, 2018
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will not do thisPeteI couldn't get Ctrl B to work with my red cam. even on RC31 year recall e.max #30,31. note barreled in prep and healthy gingiva on #30. so nice when the restoration is not subgingival!The gums do look good. But, to my eyes, the margins of both crowns and the root structure look very
July 09, 2010
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At this point, it's just a no prep CEREC telio provisional bridge that fits over the teeth and down to the gums... Now cemented in place, but it was just a snap on appliance for a week or two. It's primary purpose is to check tolerance for opening the vertical using lower distal extension RPD
November 18, 2016
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New to Cerec.... Wondering what you guys do to image the margins most clearly? If I am forced to prep to gum line or even sub g, what is the best way to get good margin scan? I dont own a laser. Packing cord?? I am doing this technique once in a while where I brush the gums out of the way
November 23, 2015
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use peek. The first case I have will not have the gum visible, but if I want both a3.5 and pink gums, what other materials should I consider?<br/><br/>Does anyone know of a digital lab that can do it? I am contacting Armen and cad ray to see if they can help<br/><br/><br/>
March 27, 2018
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? Both were indirect inlays. Surely you don't cut away more healthy tooth structure just because your doing it for insurance? If you cover a cusp on a posterior tooth, it's called an onlay????? When does an onlay become a conservative prep crown? Isa flat top crown a crown or an only? Serious
March 26, 2025
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days? Is gum growing over margins a big concern within a few days and if this sort of a situation arises, how would you deal with it? 4. What retraction method works better? Cord or paste? What if someone bleeds a lot...do you use viscostat or are there better hemostatic controls available
October 18, 2014
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Had a CEREC molar crown to seat, all stringed up, bonded ready for cementation. The gums were maybe a mm above the gums in the mesial. The heme issues were controlled up to the point of checking the seat of the crown, just prior to cementation. The crown seated just fine, but upon removing
March 02, 2017
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with a higher cuff height and prep the buccal and lingual down to the gum line or just subgingival. Seems like the deepest areas on the stock abutments are always interproximal so that will at least help having the margin a little coronal in those areas. Also better to clean the cement. But more work
June 13, 2014
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Patient came with failed PFM crown and acute periapical abscess on #9. Redo RCT, P/C, crown lengthening ( flapeless) e.max crown fabricated with e.max stain and glaze . Final picture few years follow up. One visit dentistry! Nice case. How long did you wait after trimming the gum to do
November 11, 2023
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and are much happier!! No more moving things from room to room, etc They have just done a MAJOR MAJOR upgrades , where you can have no filtering, just the gum, or just the teeth and 1mm of gum. Makes the scanning process much easier, heaps less cheek and tongue gets in the way!!! What I would suggest
March 08, 2020
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. Might be taking too many pictures... Start with some simpler cases that allow for cleaner pictures, margins above the gums as much as possible. As for this case, it's possible that the distal of 14 didn't get properly imaged so the software maps it as a big hole. Then it doesn't know how
November 05, 2016
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is a disappoinment in those tight spaces. So, it doesn't allow the Support grind out option? We use that pretty frequentlyIt allows you to grind out the guide by the gum virtually but it doesn't let you grind out the teeth either side or move forward in the workflow. In the past you were able to move
July 26, 2017
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to the gum line. If that is the case, it is amazing how much lighter the root looks with the new crown than the PFMnice looking crown. looks like its to the same margin as the PFM, blends really wellNice looking crown!may i ask pray tell, is that stained or layered? thanks Full contour, Just
January 18, 2014
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. For that reason I will now place the margin at the gum line to the buccal. To the palatal, as supra gingival as possible. Same interproximally. And occlusal reduction of about 1mm, and hopefully less then .5 mm axially will be enough if you are bonding.Eeznogood, are those reductions for Cerec? The Sirona
February 24, 2016
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at the current vertical, and the op intends on opening the vertical? Im not sure what is meant by flash on the mock up, so maybe I've missed something here. Id try to get the gum line equal on the centrals sorry to interrupt. Thank you heaps so let's say 10 crown prep in the upper. - can we prep 5 teeth each
July 16, 2024
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access hole. Crowns a screw-mented. The margins were cleaned and polished extra orally. Dan The Mini lathe is 5 years old. I use it to machine almost all my abutment. It works really well :-) Dan The photos are 1 month post op. The gums look good. I will keep an eye on it. I can always unscrew
December 08, 2015
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Wishing you all an extremely happy, prosperous, healthy, bright and successful New Year. Happy New Year 2014! End the year with some Holiday Fun.....Start the New Year with some CERECing fun Via Connect! The Sirona Connect Scan..... The Design.... The Mill..... I would
January 03, 2014
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elderly patients come in with a max anterior snapped off at the gum line and tooth really needs endo crown/crown lengthening. I can extract and put an implant in immediately and a temporary crown for less money and much less trauma for the patient.
April 04, 2014
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use a rubber dam or I am sure that the gums won't start bleeding once I start flossing the contacts. If I can't use a rubber dam, or I am concerned about the gums bleeding once the restoration is seated, I will use a self-etching cement and let it gel before starting clean-up. With self etching
January 08, 2016
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and couldnt tell you the last time Ive had someone return or complain. Surprising, but I do set the expectations of soreness for a few days. That tooth was broke quite a ways below the gums, you might be sore for several days but the procedure went well. Easy Any suggestions on the best diode available
August 15, 2025
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either the fatboy or it's cousin TFS23. (5 min) * Margins are generally above the gum line in the posterior unless decay and/or previous restorations take you there. * Also, frequently one can just incorporate missing tooth into the prep rather than mess with a BU so long as there aren't undercuts
April 13, 2015
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sitevirtual placement of implant in center of crowndesign of stent from implant placementscan of implant at time of surgerydesigned crown splitcustom abutmentday of surgery2 week post opnot the healthy tissueday of final placement comparison of custom tissue abutment and final crownfinal crownThis
December 21, 2016
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The HT can look a little gray-ish from this view however the occlusal looks better as an HT.I would believe the periodontal tissues would be healthier without placement of a subgingival margin. Esthetics are not a concern in this case. Pulpal and periodontal health considerations would incline me
December 26, 2014
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, the gums bled less during delivery appt. I don't know why and it is certainly not intuituve. i rarely get much bleeding these days and I am thinking that could be why. I'm willing to admit I could be way off the mark here Just a thought - you packed cord then delivered the temp and since the sulcus
July 15, 2015
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and bonding techniques were excellent, why wouldn't the restorations stay put and wear naturally with time. I heard a theory recently that patients will wear/grind and reestablish vertical dimenstion. a purely additive procedure is superior to mowing down healthy enamel. you just reverse aged
November 18, 2016
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could definitely see the benefit of that. Right now with bluecam, I use a traditional two cord technique for full coverage crowns. Do you find with full coverage using the omnicam you can prep to an equi-gingival level then scan without any cord at all? Anything else above the gum line goes alot quicker of course.Do a search on YouTube for Cerecology. I have a video about 'going deep.' You'll see how Omnicam really works!will do! thanks
July 15, 2015
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and a powder meister. As long as your assistant keeps it clean and full, it works like a charm. I used to struggle with it at first, but once we got the habit of filling it after every case and keeping it clean, it works very nicely. My trick is to under powder a little bit so that I can almost see the gums
March 15, 2017
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I'm in! I would think they are out there. Looks like a gorgeous facility, btw. I like the excitement of unpredictable, but I also like lets do it today to also mean lets finish it today if possible. Obviously if you run in to a crack or a possible endo or crazy gums you can wait it out
July 13, 2015
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a hand made temp. i use export the cerec connect image into regular cerec and mill it. flush margins, good gum tissue with great contacts and holds crown and my gold cerec connect crowns pop in easily. my temp skills aren't on par with my cerec...Still like empress in the anterior, it is more esthetic
July 07, 2016
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and money here. #9 broke off at the gumline and was non restorable. I placed it back in with some flowable just to get a biocopy scan. Then I removed and prepped teeth and flattened #9 to the gums for the scan. I didn't remove the post on #8. Maybe a mistake, maybe
January 24, 2015
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difficult than a traditional one. You should really give impreguma try (not PVS)It needsminimal retraction (sometimes no retraction as the thick material pushes the gum away), and it captures wet margin. You just cant do that with a scanner.I will concede that point. I guess Ive just been blessed with all
October 18, 2018
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with. Wish emax blocks came in multi, but no... Hollywood ideal, yeah, in this case one could redo the entire anterior group with gum line adjustments, etc. Here, the pt called Monday, and was in a total panic about giving a big business presentation Tuesday night. No big deal -- did it Tues
December 18, 2015
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you know what, with all the concern about wear facets, bruxism, open margins, gastric reflux, biological width, mercury poisoning, resin allergy, microshrinkage, microleakage, lack of isolation, bleeding gums, etc, etc, etc, etc... Its amazing that anyone is successful with any kind of dentistry
March 19, 2008
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to clean up.RickWow, nice work and nice polish Rick!Beauty Rick.I think this is were all ceramic shines.The gingival tissue would not be as healthy as it is now if you put a margin at or below it.The amount of tooth reduction to prep a margin at the gingiva, then more axial reduction to get draw
March 11, 2008
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flat across on both bicuspids, with only a slighly lower facial shoulder. I had a nice band of enamel to bond to, so I think she'll be fine.Jordan did you consider placing onlays that would preserve the intact and healthy gingival environment and also significantly save more tooth structure
January 05, 2007
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I did a EMax crown back in March of 2015. The margin is very deep near the bone. Some might want to do a crown lenghening surgery. Thanks to Cerec my patient was spared of that surgery. 3 year recall shows healthy interproximal gingiva with no bone loss March of 2015 May of 2018 No cords
May 26, 2018
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staining in the first molars (and others). I was just trying to match the color to the occlusal of #20...that's only part anyone is going to see anyway.I love keeping the margins out of the gums...especially in this case where the periodontist doesn't really need to worry about a restorative margin
November 27, 2006
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I liked this for certain cases. Match is OK. But the kids is young and poor and works a lot of jobs. Gave him a huge discount so i thought I'd take a stab at it. Came out very nice and healthy. This was an immediate implant and temp. Makes me think I need to make my implants cheaper. Visit
August 31, 2014
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for the machine. Although I was down on lasers before, I am slowly liking them more. But still, there are a lot of things that you can do without shelling out the big bucks for a laser. You can blast an irregular hole in a tooth with air abrasion or a fissutotmomy bur. You can remove gum
June 16, 2005
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the all ceramic anteriors.BobAre there any natural maxillary teeth in Matt's picture?Love the gingival response from the PFM's on #12 #13 #14 #20. Hmmmm.Is this sarcasm or do you actually love it? I assure you that this tissue is as healthy as it gets, but I'd love to discuss it if you have
December 11, 2007
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of the cases I showed you can not feel a margin. Better than the best gold I have ever marginated. Why people buy cerec, do ceramic dentistry and continue to prep down to the gum line when it is not absolutely necessary defies logic. Also tissue likes tooth structure, not manmade stuff. So if you can
January 30, 2018
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match, but the line is still there and the transition is stark. Gums are still a little beat up from cord/RD I asked the patient if they wanted to reprep to blend things in a bit more, but they weren't concerned and wanted it in. I didn't feel bad about cementing today, but I'll certainly know
December 27, 2023
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. Very few people want anyone digging around in their mouths. lol We, I hope, are generally respectful of the position you all hold, and treat doctors with the highest respect and because we have been taught that you all are here to care for us. Give us truth and guidance and keep us healthy, so we trust
September 23, 2023
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probably cover the buccal especially with how undermined the cusp was. I know some love the partial coverage etc. but I often just run them most of the way down to just above the gums with a light prep. Mostly cause if I end the margin halfway down the tooth and it does happen to show the patient
January 20, 2017
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almost always remove it (just be careful not to drag and scrape and scratch). I will image the tooth and then tilt mesially or distally for the 2 adjacent teeth and capture contacts. another tip for you is to buccal bite more onto gum tissue so there is more info for better buccal bite correlation
June 04, 2016
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on the work by Magne, Jackson, Bertolotti back in the day as well as Kois, Spear. A bonded porcelain restoration using a total etch technique (OptiBond FL) is the most biomimetic restoration that we can provide, it does not destroy healthy tooth structure but reinforces it. A crown is too aggressive
November 21, 2023
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opinion. They are ceramic restorations fabricated by a CEREC machine. I do it chairside rather than lab fabricated. Carry on! Mac, you are getting hung up on the word Crown. Onlay or crownlay. Yeah, some people do 2mm butt margins to the gum, but it's not necessary. So you can't say that Cerec preps
July 27, 2012
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and their overall health is under jeopardy.It is not a good idea to have tunnel vision and expect all patients to be motivated by one way only.I applaud those dentists who are willing patients to try different methods of reaching their patients.If the tissue was healthy and no perio disease you were
May 19, 2010
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of the severely inflamed gums, AKA ring around the tooth. You've all seen it so it ok. just a couple of quick pics. was running behind. Pt hated old composite #9DILF. was very old. told her we'd attempt to match it but single unit 8 or 9 as we all know are the toughest. Pt was pleased
December 09, 2009
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